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Steve Robinson's avatar

As a hard leaner toward hopeful universalism, I love this post. I recall 40 years ago way back in my Bible church days reading Ephesians 1:2-18 and Colossians 3 and St. Paul's statements like "...to the summing up of all things in Christ" and "by Him, in Him, unto Him" etc. and wondered how there could be a "hell" if the ontological end of everything is "in Christ" to His glory. (And perhaps if those were hat tips to what he saw in the third heaven that he was not permitted to speak).

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Davede Alexander Thompson's avatar

It rather seems to me to be those who seem to have a view of God which constrains Him to some set of bounds that tend to be Universalists -- "He must act like this," "He must be this way," "If He is X, then it must mean that He is Y."

I am struck by how absolutely insistent St Gregory of Nyssa is on the unboundedness of God. He cannot be constrained or defined or limited by ANYthing. If He was then He would not truly be God, either He would be contained in something that is greater than Him, or He would be in opposition to the ultimate good, the ultimate limit of all things, and thus be evil.

Those who hold to the possibility of a Hell do not seem to have a limited, bounded view of God. They can hold an experience within themselves of the all-perfect, all-encompassing God who is Goodness, and yet still see the possibility of this not including themselves. They can see Perfect Love for all beings and see the possibility of that Perfect Love being perceived as Hate. They can hold onto the contradiction because they don't see God as "having to do or be such-and-such."

Of course there are some who may properly be called Infernalists as DBH likes to accuse, who insist there must be a Hell because God must mete out such-and-such a punishment (to others) or who cannot allow such-and-such a person to "get in" (again, others only need be considered.

But, like Moses, some can hold the contradiction of "speaking with God as one speaks with a friend" (that is, face-to-face), and yet "no man may see Me and live." This is impossible for us to understand, but this, for Gregory, shows us exactly the disposition we must have toward God in order to see Him. We must always be ready to follow Him wherever He may lead (Life of Moses, II: Eternal Progress), like Moses in the cleft of the rock seeing only God's backside. If we see Him face-to-face (in the eternal or Essential context), then we are eternally opposed to Him and thus are always departing from Life. Forcing Him to do such-and-such a thing to be in accordance of our ideas of "justice" or "goodness" or "mercy." would be like trying to see Him face-to-face when He is trying to grab us by His Hand and have us follow behind Him. We must follow wherever His revelation leads.

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